S-Clive keeping it real.
An interview with Western’s own Stephan “S-Clive” Walker.
DS: We’re here with Stephan “S-Clive” Walker, and I’m here to talk with him about his rap career.
DS: Well, I hear you’re competing with Soulja Boy for “The Best Rapper That Nobody Has Ever Heard Of”.
S-Clive: I mean, compete? I don’t know. I don’t really compete with people, you know? I just do what I gotta do. People usually tend to relate me to other people, if that’s what you mean.
DS: What comparisons have you received in the past?
S-Clive: People I talk to on a daily basis, people who know me, they usually tend to criticize me in a good way. Like, if I do bad, they like “you sound like somebody bad, you sound like Lil B.” Just to like make me better.
DS: I like Lil B. I think he does well the talent that he’s been given.
S-Clive: I mean, he just makes music…free music.
DS: Now, you don’t accept those comparisons? You don’t think you sound like Lil B?
S-Clive: I’m not gonna say that I sound better than him, because everyone has their own sound. I would probably say that I would have to be compared on a general basis, like in a category of rappers. My favorite rapper is Young Jeezy. But I don’t listen to other people and make that sound, I like to make my own sound. My top three favorite rappers are Wiz, Jeezy and Meek. But you hear my raps, I don’t really sound like them, I sound like myself. I don’t really wanna sound like somebody because say that dude dies out, and if I keep on sounding like him people are gona be like “yo man, he’s washed up why you wanna sound like him?”.
DS: Kind of like Macklemore being white. It’s like, Hello! Somebody else was already white.
S-Clive: I respect it. But Mack, you know, congrats on that grammy. I feel like somebody else should have won that, I feel like Kendrick should have won. But, you know, it’s the people’s choice.
DS: Let’s get right down to the roots of this thing. Why do you make this music?
S-Clive: I make music for people like me. You know what I’m saying? People who are trying to get their goals and make money.
DS: Would you say that those are the two main themes in your artistic expression? Are those the messages you are trying to relay?
S-Clive: You know, I don’t rap about money and goals all the time, I rap about real things. But in the general case I do it for people who don’t hear that sound. I’m not a hip-hop rapper, I like trap music, I like rap music, you know I respect hip-hop but it’s not my time. It’s not my age and it doesn’t fit me. So the music I’m bring out is for people to relate to. Usually rappers talk about a lot of stuff, you know, talk about flippin’ bricks, chickens. I don’t rap about that because I don’t flip chickens, you know what I’m saying? They talk about a lot of things like how they got glizzys and all that. I don’t have a glizzy, so why should I rap about that?
DS: Let me go ahead and stop you right there…I don’t know what any of those terms mean. Could you elaborate on some of that?
S-Clive: A glizzy is um, a strap. You know what I’m saying?
S-Clive: A gun.
S-Clive: A chicken is a bird, a bird is a brick, a brick is white.
DS: Okay. Alright. I mean, we don’t have to be so subtle in this interview, but I got what you’re putting down here. What age did you decide you were going to start doing this.
S-Clive: Well, man. My mother, she’s a singer. So music, I was born with it. At a young age, my Mom had a bunch of CDs. She used to listen to Michael Jackson a lot. I used to hear him and I digged his music. I was just like, what if I made my own music?
DS: So, you heard Michael Jackson and thought “What if I made trap music?”
S-Clive: Na, I mean, Michael Jackson at the time was probably like Jay-Z and Beyonce today.
DS: He was the big pop act of the time.
S-Clive: Yeah. When people listen to his music, or their music, they tend to be like, wow, this is good music. If you’re really influenced by their music, you might wanna make music. I remember my first time rapping, I was with my cousin and we were in the car. He just played some song and was like, “yo, rap, Steph” and I just started rapping. You know, I was like six or five or something like that, but I was legit.
DS: So you were good even back then?
S-Clive: I mean I’m not gonna say I was good back then.
DS: Would you say that your skills have improved since then?
S-Clive: Yeah, by a lot. I would say even last year I was not as good as I am today. If I gave you a song today and I gave you a song I made last year, you would say “wow, that’s two different people”. I sound better and I learned better.
DS: So it’s a constant improvement. Are there certain ways you practice to make sure you’re constantly improving?
S-Clive: I mean, I’m a producer and I’m a rapper. When I first started making beats, it was whack. It wasn’t that good, it was just a stepping stool. When I started rapping, you know, I had a base. So right after that people told me the good and the bad. They told me “this is what’s bad about you, I respect what you said, I respect the flow you have but you gotta deliver it better” so then I came back and all I did was make music. I was recording with my boys, my friends, college friends, recording with my neighbor – you know, I think you know Killa.
S-Clive: Shout out to Killa. Killa, Millport for life. You feelin’ me, The Bricks. But yeah man, every time I had something, I just made it better. As I said earlier about last year, last year I made a couple of tracks, they were good and a lot of people liked them. But now, this year I haven’t published anything yet. They’re thinking the last year is gonna be the same as this year, even though I kept on writing and kept on getting the flow better. I did my research, you know what I’m saying? So yeah, I got better. I improved every single track.
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